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Offline Doesnt

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List of Analyses
« on: August 18, 2013, 04:09:07 PM »
a.k.a. what needs doing

i'm aware these sorts of indexes tend to get out of date but we have a finite number of threads so i think this is okay



Advent Alice
Advent Chen
Advent Cirno
Advent Letty
Advent Marisa
Advent Meiling
Advent Mokou
Advent Mystia
Advent Ran
Advent Reisen
Advent Tewi
Advent Yukari

Attack Alice
Attack Chen
Attack Daiyousei
Attack Eirin
Attack Flandre
Attack Hina
Attack Kaguya
Attack Kanako
Attack Kazami
Attack Keine
Attack Koishi
Attack Komachi
Attack Lily Black
Attack Lily White
Attack Luna Child
Attack Marisa
Attack Medicine
Attack Minoriko
Attack Mokou
Attack Murasa
Attack Mystia
Attack Nitori
Attack Nue
Attack Patchouli
Attack Ran
Attack Reimu
Attack Remilia
Attack Rin
Attack Rumia
Attack Sanae
Attack Shikieiki
Attack Shou
Attack Star Sapphire
Attack Suika
Attack Sunny Milk
Attack Suwako
Attack Tenshi
Attack Tewi
Attack Tokiko
Attack Utsuho
Attack Yuka
Attack Yuugi
Attack Yuyuko

Defense Byakuren
Defense Daiyousei
Defense Hatate
Defense Hina
Defense Ichirin
Defense Iku
Defense Kaguya
Defense Kanako
Defense Keine
Defense Layla
Defense Letty
Defense Meiling
Defense Minoriko
Defense Mokou
Defense Momiji
Defense Murasa
Defense Parsee
Defense Patchouli
Defense Reimu
Defense Reisen
Defense Remilia
Defense Satori
Defense Shikieiki
Defense Sunny Milk
Defense Suwako
Defense Tenshi
Defense Tewi
Defence Wriggle
Defense Youmu
Defense Yukari
Defense Yuugi
Defense Yuyuko

Helper Eirin
Helper Keine
Helper Koakuma
Helper Letty
Helper Lily White
Helper Lunasa
Helper Lyrica
Helper Merlin
Helper Mystia
Helper Nazrin
Helper Ran
Helper Sakuya
Helper Shizuha
Helper Star Sapphire

Speed Aya
Speed Cirno
Speed Flandre
Speed Kogasa
Speed Koishi
Speed Komachi
Speed Lily Black
Speed Marisa
Speed Medicine
Speed Meiling
Speed Rin
Speed Rumia
Speed Sariel
Speed Shizuha
Speed Utsuho
Speed Wriggle
Speed Yamame
Speed Yorihime
Speed Youmu

Technical Alice
Technical Aya
Technical Byakuren
Technical Chen
Technical Cirno
Technical Hatate
Technical Ichirin
Technical Iku
Technical Kizume
Technical Kogasa
Technical Luna Child
Technical Medicine
Technical Nazrin
Technical Nitori
Technical Nue
Technical Parsee
Technical Reisen
Technical Sakuya
Technical Sanae
Technical Satori
Technical Shou
Technical Suika
Technical Toyohime
Technical Yamame
Technical Yuka
Technical Yukari

Aki Sisters
Akyuu
Alice
Aya
Byakuren
Chen
Chiyuri
Cirno
Daiyousei
Dark Alice
Eirin
Elis
Ellen
Elly
Flandre
Futo
Gengetsu
Genji
Goliath Doll
Hakurei
Hatate
Hina
Ichirin
Iku
Kaguya
Kana
Kanako
Kazami
Kedama
Keine
Kikuri
Kirisame
Kisume
Koakuma
Kogasa
Koishi
Komachi
Konngara
Kotohime
Kurumi
Kyouko
Layla
Letty
Lily Black
Lily White
Luize
Luna Child
Lunasa
Lyrica
Mai
Mamizou
Margatroid
Marisa
Medicine
Meiling
Meira
Merlin
Miko
Mima
Mimi-chan
Minoriko
Mokou
Momiji
Mugetsu
Murasa
Mystia
Nazrin
Nitori
Nue
Orange
Parsee
Patchouli
Ran
Reimu
Reisen
Reisen II
Remilia
Rika
Rikako
Rin
Rinnosuke
Rumia
Ruukoto
Sakuya
Sanae
Sara
Sariel
Satori
Seiga
Sendai
Shikieiki
Shingyoku-f
Shingyoku-m
Shingyoku-o
Shinki
Shizuha
Shou
Star Sapphire
Suika
Sunny Milk
Suwako
Tenma
Tenshi
Tensoku
Tewi
Tojiko
Tokiko
Tori
Toyohime
Utsuho
Wriggle
Yamame
Yorihime
Yoshika
Youki
Youmu
Yuka
Yukari
Yuki
Yumeko
Yumemi
Yuugenmagan
Yuugi
Yuyuko
Zombie Fairy
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Re: List of Analyses
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 09:25:49 PM »
You forgot something!

Little Chibi Cup!

Chibi Alice
Chibi Aya
Chibi Byakuren
Chibi Chen
Chibi Chiyuri
Chibi Cirno
Chibi Daiyousei
Chibi Eirin
Chibi Elis
Chibi Ellen
Chibi Elly
Chibi Flandre
Chibi Futo
Chibi Gengetsu
Chibi Hakurei
Chibi Hatate
Chibi Hina
Chibi Ichirin
Chibi Iku
Chibi Kaguya
Chibi Kana
Chibi Kanako
Chibi Kasen
Chibi Kazami
Chibi Keine
Chibi Kirisame
Chibi Kisume
Chibi Koakuma
Chibi Kogasa
Chibi Koishi
Chibi Komachi
Chibi Konngara
Chibi Kotohime
Chibi Kurumi
Chibi Kyouko
Chibi Layla
Chibi Letty
Chibi Lily Black
Chibi Lily White
Chibi Luize
Chibi Luna Child
Chibi Lunasa
Chibi Lyrica
Chibi Mai
Chibi Mamizou
Chibi Margatroid
Chibi Marisa
Chibi Medicine
Chibi Meiling
Chibi Meira
Chibi Merlin
Chibi Miko
Chibi Mima
Chibi Minoriko
Chibi Mokou
Chibi Momji
Chibi Mugetsu
Chibi Murasa
Chibi Mystia
Chibi Nazrin
Chibi Nitori
Chibi Nue
Chibi Orange
Chibi Parsee
Chibi Patchouli
Chibi Ran
Chibi Reimu
Chibi Reisen
Chibi Remilia
Chibi Rika
Chibi Rikako
Chibi Rin
Chibi Rumia
Chibi Sakuya
Chibi Sanae
Chibi Sara
Chibi Sariel
Chibi Satori
Chibi Seiga
Chibi Shikieiki
Chibi Shingyoku
Chibi Shinki
Chibi Shizuha
Chibi Shou
Chibi Star Sapphire
Chibi Suika
Chibi Sunny Milk
Chibi Suwako
Chibi Tenshi
Chibi Tewi
Chibi Tojiko
Chibi Tokiko
Chibi Toyohime
Chibi Utsuho
Chibi Wriggle
Chibi Yamame
Chibi Yorihime
Chibi Yoshika
Chibi Youmu
Chibi Yuka
Chibi Yukari
Chibi Yuki
Chibi Yumeko
Chibi Yumemi
Chibi Yuugenmagan
Chibi Yuugi
Chibi Yuyuko



turns out it really is chibi cup

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« Last Edit: August 25, 2013, 02:20:31 AM by shai_LP »

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Re: List of Analyses
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:02:52 PM »
I don't really see the point in making sets for Chibi forms. We rarely ever play LC, so not only would it be hard to test viability, but the sets that actually manage to get written would never see any use.
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Re: List of Analyses
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 04:25:51 PM »
You never know. Maybe LC will actually become a thing once we have a metagame?
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But yeah, 100% of the priority should be on the other sets, at least right now. Maybe LC sets could be useful in the future though.

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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2014, 04:35:42 AM »
The UU tournament is underway, which means a lot of puppets that get overlooked are getting some attention in battle; however, we still have many puppets, including staples like Speed Medicine and Attack Suwako which are significant enough to warrant mention in other writeups, with no usage guidelines in this forum at all. This is my attempt to galvanise people into making those guidelines, by providing the worst advice possible - crowdsourced advice.

I've scraped Doesnt's usage data for the most used item, most used EV spread and four most used moves for each puppet that doesn't already have a topic. I picked the next most common EV spread if the most common has zero EVs assigned (though I let past any that don't assign the four left over in a 252/252/4 spread) and I chose the next most common item if the most common is "none". I have tried to slash where possible when there is a tie, and have noted when that is not possible.

The results are terrible - I'm not actually thinking about viability or using my brain to make the set make sense, and the long tail is really weird. People march into battle with puppets with no EVs and a default nature, and there seems to be one person who sprinkles EVs around for no reason other than to make an original spread rather than just using 252/252/4 which in some cases ends up the most common spread over a more conventional one.

Advent *
Advent Chen @ Scope Lens
Ability: Advent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Slash
- Pursuit
- Rock Bullet
- Fake Out

Advent Cirno @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Advent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Ice Ball
- Tailwind
- Braver
- Blade Flash

Advent Meiling @ Leftovers
Ability: Advent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Slack Off
- High Jump Kick
- Heal Bell
- Vital Throw

Advent Mokou @ Special Bloomers
Ability: Advent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Flare Blitz
- Pursuit
- Mach Punch
- Superpower

Advent Mystia @ Leftovers
Ability: Advent
EVs: 252 Def / 252 Spd / 4 SpAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Teeter Dance
- Energy Light
- Reflect
- Air Slash

Advent Ran @ Leftovers
Ability: Advent
EVs: 168 Atk / 168 Def / 168 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Extremespeed
- Tailwind
- Heart Break
- Killing Bite

Advent Tewi @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Advent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Spikes
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Taunt

Advent Yukari @ Leppa (PP) Berry
Ability: Advent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpAtk
Quiet Nature (+SpAtk, -Spd)
- Metronome
- Mana Burst
- Energy Ball
- Draco Meteor

Attack *
Attack Alice @ Leftovers
Ability: Doll Wall / Magic Barrier
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Mana Burst
- Signal Beam
- Mana Charge
- Ice Beam

Attack Chen @ Leftovers
Ability: Early Bird / Limber
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Soar
- Cross Poison
- Fury Swipes
- Heart Break

Attack Daiyousei @ King's Rock
Ability: Serene Grace / Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Air Slash
- Mana Burst
- Thunder Wave

Attack Eirin @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure / Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Poison Jab
- Recover
- Zen Headbutt
- Psycho Cut

Attack Hina @ Leftovers
Ability: Strange Mist / Levitate
EVs: 148 HP / 76 Def / 252 SpAtk / 32 SpDef
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Poison Bomb
- Surf
- Fire Blast
- Toxic

Attack Kanako @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure / Lightningrod
EVs: 100 HP / 100 Def / 200 Spd / 8 SpAtk / 100 SpDef
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Extrasensory
- Earth Power
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Attack Koishi @ Leftovers
Ability: Unconscious
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Signal Beam
- Energy Ball
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Attack Komachi @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Own Tempo / Swift Swim
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Aqua Jet
- Swords Dance
- Draw The Line
- Waterfall

Attack Luna Child @ Petaya (Spa) Berry
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Spd / 8 SpAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Agility
- Substitute
- Baton Pass
- Nature Sound

Attack Marisa @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Collector
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Thunderbolt
- Hyper Beam
- Blast Burn
- Volt Tackle

Attack Medicine @ Camoflauge (Nature)
Ability: Poison Body / Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Toxic
- Poison Bomb
- Leech Seed

Attack Mokou @ White Herb
Ability: Natural Cure / Fire Veil
EVs: 148 HP / 100 Atk / 100 Spd / 160 SpAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Blaze Kick
- Laba Plume

Attack Mystia @ Chinese Dress (Dream)
Ability: Diva / Cute Charm
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Hyper Voice
- Air Slash
- Performance
- Binding Voice

Attack Nitori @ Swimsuit (Water)
Ability: Swift Swim / Rain Dish
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 172 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Aqua Jet
- Rain Dance
- Volt Tackle
- Rapid Spin

Attack Nue @ Power Ribbon
Ability: Mysterious / Pressure
EVs: 12 HP / 244 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Brave Bird
- Poison Jab
- Heart Break
- Ice Punch

Attack Ran @ Witch Costume (Reason)
Ability: Early Bird / Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Binding Voice
- Luster Purge
- Flamethrower
- Mana Burst

Attack Rin @ Gothic Outfit (Fire)
Ability: Limber / Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Binding Voice
- Fire Blast
- Confuse Ray
- Flamethrower

Attack Shikieiki @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 12 HP / 248 Spd / 248 SpAtk
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Extrasensory
- Thunderbolt
- Calm Mind
- Luster Purge

Attack Shou @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Inner Focus / Lughtningrod
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Earthquake
- Tailwind
- Ice Punch
- Swords Dance

Attack Suika @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Sand Stream / Unnatural Strength
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Fire Punch
- Steel Fist
- Earthquake
- Bulk Up

Attack Sunny Milk @ Camoflauge (Nature)
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 8 Atk / 248 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Rash Nature (+SpAtk, -SpDef)
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Power Whip
- Nature Power

Attack Suwako @ Sport Sweater (Earth)
Ability: Water Veil / Damp
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Earthquake
- Poison Jab
- Meteor Mash
- Waterfall

Attack Tenshi @ Sport Sweater (Earth)
Ability: Sturdy / Hisouten
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Earthquake
- Draw The Line
- Swords Dance
- Rock Bullet

Attack Tokiko @ Liechi (Atk) Berry
Ability: Limber / Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind
- Facade
- Rain Dance

Attack Yuka @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow / Pressure
EVs: 232 HP / 252 Atk / 24 Def
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Power Whip
- Curse
- Cross Chop
- Ingrain

Attack Yuyuko @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Spd / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature (+SpAtk, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam
- Yawn

Defense *
Defense Byakuren @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Barrier / Inner Focus
EVs: 248 Def / 100 SpAtk / 160 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Mana Burst
- Detect
- Wish
- Calm Mind

Defense Hatate @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace / Focus
EVs: 40 HP / 200 Def / 168 SpAtk / 100 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Whirlwind
- Mana Charge
- Luster Purge

Defense Ichirin @ Leftovers
Ability: Gate Keeper / Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Counter
- Cross Chop
- Thunderpunch
- Fire Punch

Defense Iku @ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo / Static
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Knock Off
- Discharge
- Encore
- Signal Beam

Defense Kanako @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure / Lightningrod
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Spikes
- Whirlwind
- Ancientpower

Defense Keine @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate / Rock Head
EVs: 44 HP / 88 Atk / 252 Def / 124 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Thunder Wave
- Earthquake
- Heat Claw
- Safeguard

Defense Layla @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Mana Burst
- Wish
- Calm Mind
- Dream Eater

Defense Letty @ Leftovers
Ability: Wall of Ice
EVs: 248 Def / 76 SpAtk / 184 SpDef
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Wish
- Ice Beam
- Toxic
- Detect

Defense Meiling @ Leftovers
Ability: Gate Keeper
EVs: 48 HP / 108 Atk / 252 Def / 100 SpDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Slack Off
- Twister
- Counter
- Strength

Defense Minoriko @ Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll / Overgrow
EVs: 128 HP / 124 Def / 252 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Giga Drain
- Energy Light
- Synthesis

Defense Mokou @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure / Fire Veil
EVs: 104 HP / 140 Def / 12 Spd / 252 SpDef
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Recover
- Whirlwind
- Will-o-wisp
- Bulk Up

Defense Momiji @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil / Early Bird
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Detect
- Killing Bite
- Blade Flash
- Braver

Defense Murasa @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent / Swift Swim
EVs: 196 HP / 60 SpAtk / 252 SpDef
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Substitute

Defense Parsee @ Leftovers
Ability: Jealousy / Insomnia
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpDef
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Pain Split
- Will-o-wisp
- Night Shade
- Destiny Bond

Defense Patchouli @ Leftovers
Ability: Guard Armor
EVs: 128 Def / 252 SpAtk / 128 SpDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earth Power
- Aromatherapy
- Toxic
- Aeroblast

Defense Reimu @ Leftovers
Ability: Hakurei Miko
EVs: 144 HP / 144 Def / 76 SpAtk / 144 SpDef
Calm Nature (+SpDef, -Atk)
- Whirlwind
- Drain Punch
- Rest
- Calm Mind

Defense Remilia @ Leftovers
Ability: Cute Charm / Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SpAtk)
- Slash
- Outrage
- Strength
- Steel Wing

Defense Satori @ Leftovers
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Destiny Bond
- Encore
- Mirror Coat
Banned forever, but here for completion. Incidentally, one of the six people who did use this used it without an item; they win a gold star.

Defense Shikieiki @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 44 HP / 252 Def / 64 Spd / 148 SpDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Extrasensory
- Mana Burst
- Mirror Coat

Defense Sunny Milk @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Def / 140 SpDef
Sassy Nature (+SpDef, -Spd)
- Recover
- Giga Drain
- Laba Plume
- Prank

Defense Su