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Advent Letty
« on: June 26, 2013, 10:25:47 PM »
Advent Letty


Ice/Steel

HP: 95
Atk: 115
Def: 110
SpA: 80
SpD: 80
Spe: 70

Ability: Advent (Prevents secondary effects of attacks)

Overview
Having the combination of dual STAB priority, Swords Dance and 115 Base Attack makes Advent Letty to a fearsome late-game cleaner. Furthermore, she has solid coverage options to deal with resistors quite well. Advent is somewhat useful, since it prevents some parahax and flinches. The winter lady has some notable flaws, though - she's x4 weak to Fire, and being mainly just a physical attacker, a burn will make her dead weight. Keep her away from the heat, and she'll become a great asset.

Swords Dance
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SpD
Nature: Adamant
Item: Lum Berry / Maid Outfit / Thick Fur
-Swords Dance
-Ice Shard / Extremespeed
-Blade Flash / Extremespeed
-Earthquake / Poison Jab / Waterfall

This set is for finishing off a weakened team - having a solid physical bulk and resistance to most priority, she can switch into a crippled foe, set up Swords Dance and begin to sweep. Ice Shard and Blade Flash are your primary STAB options, though Extremespeed can be used if you don't need a Super-Effective hit, since it is stronger than both. The last move deals with her main threats - Earthquake helps against Fire-Types and Poison Jab against Water-Types. Waterfall can be used against Rin and Utsuho forms, but is otherwise outclassed by Earthquake.

Choice
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SpD
Nature: Adamant
Item: Special Bloomers
-Ice Punch
-Braver
-Ice Shard / Blade Flash / Extremespeed
-Earthquake / Waterfall

This set is dedicated to break down walls, as the item gives her a better immediate power than setting up Swords Dance. Ice Punch and Braver are for STAB, while the priority move should be selected to counter certain threats to your team. Earthquake is preferred as a coverage move as it catches Fire-Types off guard and helps against bulky Miasma-Types. Waterfall is again listed since it checks Rin and hits Earth-Types.

Double Dance
EVs: 252 Atk / 148 HP / 108 Spe
Nature: Adamant
Item: Lum Berry / Maid Outfit / Thick Fur
-Swords Dance
-Agility
-Ice Punch / Earthquake
-Braver / Earthquake

This set forgoes a third attacking move in order to be usable as wallbreaker or late-game sweeper - depending on the situation, use Swords Dance against stall teams or Agility against more offensive ones, then start hitting things. The given EVs allow you to always outspeed Advent Marisa after an Agility - if you allocate 132 Speed EVs instead (take points away from HP), you'll hit 418 Speed, enough to outspeed Lily Black and Mimi-Chan (you need Earthquake to threaten the latter).

Other Options

Advent Letty can set up Spikes, so if you don't need her to attack, you can do that if need be. A pure Agility set might sound good, but Advent Cirno reaches enough Speed after one Tailwind, hits harder and has a better STAB in Ice Ball. Curse is an alternate set-up move, but the extra defense is often redunant and Swords Dance gets her attack up faster. When it comes to more coverage moves, Body Slam is the most notable example, since it can spread Paralysis. Alternately, Selfdestruct can break walls on the Swords Dance set to break walls or to finish with a bang on the Double Dance one, but it's hard to find a moveslot for it. Most others don't have worthwhile coverage, though. Also, she has a surprisingly wide array of special moves, but her Special Attack isn't that great - Surf might work if you're scared of Mokou burning you with Flame Body, but that's it. Lastly, if you like gimmick sets, you can use the combination of Block and Screech to set up a Pursuit trapping, but since she can already hit Dream- and Reason-Types well enough, this is pointless.

Checks and Counters

The biggest problem for Advent Letty is Defense Hina - she shrugs off most of her attacks and can either burn her or KO with Flamethrower/Fire Blast. Defensive sets of Rin check Advent Letty if she doesn't carry Waterfall - Intimidate will weaken her blows and she can then cripple her with Will-O-Wisp (beware of Lum Berries). Yoshika can also take a lot of her hits and do the same, but must be wary of Earthquake. Offensively, fast Fire-Types, mainly special-based ones, can scare her out with Flamethrower and Fire Blast - Attack Patchouli and Kisume in particular x4 resist her STAB combination. They both have to be careful about Earthquake, though. Lastly, Rock Bullet and Mach Punch can be employed against her, but with her high bulk, she can survive one at full health.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2013, 08:28:28 AM by LightningLord2 »

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 12:52:54 AM »
Why isn't self-destruct in the other options tab?

It halves defense still and is a good way to go out with a bang.

Spikes/Self-Destruct is already a base for a suicide lead set

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 08:29:33 AM »
Fixed that and added an additional option to the Agility set. However, Advent Letty is far too slow for a suicide Spiker.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2013, 04:27:50 PM by LightningLord2 »

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 06:23:39 AM »
Ice Shard/Extremespeed
Blade Flash/Extremespeed
Spikes
Explosion

full Atk and HP EVs always worked out for me

so long as the enemy wasn't a Mimi-chan or Mokou or something I tended to get at least a kill or a single layer of spikes minimum

I'd like to add that because Advent Letty also has immunity to fake-out's flinching portion [because of Advent], which gives you a potential free layer of spikes/kill on anything leading with it.

Remembered at work too, Advent also gives her immunity to Spider-Web, something that lead Yamames loooooooove to run



« Last Edit: August 07, 2013, 09:35:32 PM by shai_LP »

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2013, 11:43:06 AM »
Ehh, I dunno... AdLetty doesn't strike me as the best suicide lead ever.

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However, Advent Letty is far too slow for a suicide Spiker.
^ This thing.

With a suicide Spikes lead, when you see you're about to die, you'd ideally either lay up more spikes or Explode in their face right before doing so, therefore giving your team the advantage.

However, all a suicide AdLetty can really do if pit up against something faster than her that can kill her is throw a priority before dying. That's... bad.

If all you want is an Advent lead, then you might consider taking a look into AdMarisa or AdTewi, or just running a Trickband AdChen instead.

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2013, 05:32:18 PM »
Suicide leads tend to be nice cause rocks + spikes or rocks + explosion. Spikes + explosion in a game where D hina exists doesn't really cut it.

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Re: Advent Letty
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 04:57:51 PM »
Yes, DHina will laugh on your face.

However, Selfdestruct is still a valid option. You probably wouldn't want to run it on a Spikes lead, but it works well on both the Choice set and on an Agility set.