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Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« on: December 18, 2012, 03:25:55 AM »
Ever looked at a Puppet and say, "Hey what if this Chen had a speed form"? Then this is the thread for you.
Go ahead and brainstorm alternate forms for any Puppet, and you can even include possible stats, abilities, movesets, etc.
Like for example:

ATTACK RIKA (Her in her lil Flower Tank)
Typing: Steel/Nature
90 HP
50 ATK
70 DEFENSE
140 S ATTACK
130 S DEFENSE
50 SPEED

Abilities: Sturdy, Pressure
Movsets include beam related moves and etc.

Basically made this up on a whim wasnt being serious about ARika D:
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 03:52:54 AM »
Utsuho has neat resistances to Dream, Earth, and Fire- all of Steel's weaknesses- and a broad array of useful support moves, including Will-o-wisp, Twister, Whirlwind, and Roost. She's also one of the only puppets in the game with Fire Veil, enabling her to come in safely on Sakuya's World. Unfortunately, her bulkiest form has very underwhelming 70/70/70 defensive stats...normally, anyway.

DEFENSE UTSUHO
Fire/Flying
Ability: Blaze/Fire Veil

Stats: 100 HP, 60 Attack, 110 Defense, 115 Special Attack, 80 Special Defense, 75 Speed

Her highest stat is intentionally still Special Attack- this is Utsuho, after all. Special Defense suffers because it correlates with the Smart contest category and she isn't that bright. While the other Utsuho shard forms trade critical coverage moves for ungodly stats, this one is fairly tame, so I don't see it being terribly broken with access to all her useful status options (Will o' Wisp, Roost, Twister, Whirlwind). With regards to damaging attacks, this isn't meant to be a sweeper- Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Lava Plume, Energy Ball, and Solarbeam are the only useful attacking moves she needs. (SelfDestruct and Brave Bird do not count as useful with 60 Attack).

edit- in hindsight this looks a lot more like a tech form than a defense form
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 04:00:00 AM »
steel/nature technical patchouli
overgrow/trace

she'd be an oddball patchouli form in that she'd be more physically inclined than special, but not by much - something around 115 physical attack while carrying 105 special attack+speed or so. this way she'd be able to use all of her coverage moves to a degree, and she can bust out random steel fists and power whips.

kind of like technical alice, only with coverage out the whazoo and no explosion/sub/hypnosis/focus punch.
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 05:09:20 AM »
Name
Magic Mirror (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Th05MagicMirrorMidbossAngel.png)
(evolves from kedema with Defense stone)
Ability
Synchronize

Type
Flying

Base Stats
HP:  110
Atk: 40
Def:  105
SpAtk: 70
SpDef: 105
Spd: 60

I want to see some pure flying type that is just kind of a defensive thing. few of the things is that it can dual screen, whirlwind, recover(not roost lololol). To be honest its built like you would expect a defensive flying type is and is pretty generic though it would get some nice moves like flamethrower, blizzard(as in no ice beam), and air slash but base 70 special attack kind of hinders that for the most part and honestly I'm not good with stat distribution but hey i gave it a shot.

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 09:27:03 PM »
I'd love to see a defense form of Yuuka or Kazami. Just for the hell of it. I have no clue about base values, so I'm not even gonna try with that.

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 10:08:55 AM »
Clearly I should use all the dumb ideas in this thread to create an 'extended' metagame for Shoddy 1.8
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 12:52:37 PM »
Name
Divine Dragon/God Of Gensokyo
evolves from kedema with solar shard OR legendary puppet in some hack)
Ability:Pressure

Type:Faith/Nature

Base Stats
HP:  100
Atk: 100
Def:  100
SpAtk: 100
SpDef: 100
Spd: 100


Moves:
Spec.Att: Thunder, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Silver Wind, Nature Power...
Support: Roar, Detect, Will'o'wisp, Thunder Wave, Rain Dance, Hail, Sandstorm, Sunny Day...
Att: Earthquake, Meteor Mash, Brave Bird, Elemental Punches...

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 02:07:03 AM »
Attack Orange
Typing: Dream/Fire(?)
HP: 75(??)
ATK: 255
DEF: 50
SPD: 50
SPATK: 45
SPDEF: 5
TOTAL: 480
Ability: Own Tempo/Inner Power(?)

Meant to be a final resort sort of puppet, with a maximum attack stat, yet having mediocre speed and defense. It would have to be used to make sure your opponent stayed down, yet also not getting KO'd yourself in the process of this. Would be a very deadly agility+substitute partner. Moves, I have no idea.
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 03:16:15 AM »
Since everyone else has suggested some stuff...
How about Technician Luize, based off her second appearance as a midboss.
Heart/ghost or heart/fire, I dunno.
65/95/25/105/85/135
She's meant to be a mixed attacker with blazing fast speed. however, she lacks any notable set-up moves and is VERY weak to mach punch and potentially rock bullet. I can't think of an exact movepool, though.

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 03:15:43 PM »
Clearly I should use all the dumb ideas in this thread to create an 'extended' metagame for Shoddy 1.8
The Ted Desires cast is "Extended Metagame" enough :c
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 02:44:34 PM »
Clearly I should use all the dumb ideas in this thread to create an 'extended' metagame for Shoddy 1.8
The Ted Desires cast is "Extended Metagame" enough :c

implements yuugenmagan-e with levitate and gengetsu-e with hyper beam on the shoddy servhahahahaha you wish
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 10:25:42 PM »
Attack Letty
Ice/Earth
HP:100
Atk:130
Def:70
SpA:60
SpD:60
Spe:80
Ability: Wall of Ice aka Thick Fat

aka Bad Mamoswine but honestly Earth + Ice is an amazing two-type offensive combo that provides perfectly neutral coverage in this game as anything that would resist the two (i.e. water type with levitate) does not exist; essentially Earth + Steel but neutrally stronger. Earthquake and Ice Ball, both moves which Letty have (one of which Mamoswine wishes he had), are dangerous when paired. Ice Shard isn't as strong here but priority is priority. This isn't mentioning (LOL) Tailwind, which would strike fear and anger into the hearts of others.

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2013, 10:58:42 PM »
Attack Luize
Heart/Dark (Heart/Ghost? Ghost/Fire?)
(Credit to the original artist, I'm assuming Blue made it for his hack but I have no idea.)

I propose that the stage 4 miniboss Attack Luize, firstly, should be heart/dark. Heart/Dark makes her immune to ghost attacks, however, she would now be even more deathly afraid of faith puppets, so perhaps a Ghost/Heart typing would be more ideal for her. I would imagine her form would be a more beefed up special attacker, however, keeping her defense stat somewhat high and keeping her stats up to 510. Perhaps something along the lines of:
HP: 75
ATK: 50
DEF: 95
SATK: 130
SDEF: 65
SPD: 95

Attack Luize would be a somewhat fast special attacker with good defense to keep psychical fighters at bay, though make sure to not have her equipped with psychical attacks and watch out for special attackers (I'd imagine she would get eaten up by Youmu/Youki/Elly/Etc., so there might need to be a typing change all together.) She would most likely retain her killer movesets, including signal beam and tri attack, and perhaps coupled with dark(ghost?) moves such as dream eater (shadow ball??).
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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 12:10:33 AM »
Defense Yoshika

135 HP
45   Atk
140 Def
35   Sp.Atk
130 Sp.Def
25   Spd
Guard Armour / Natural Cure

I think this seems perfectly balanced.

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Re: Shard Forms You Wished Existed But Don't Exist
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 11:02:41 PM »
Technical Reimu

Dream/Faith or Dream/Fly
Ability: Hakurei Miko
90 HP
60 ATK
100 DEF
120 Sp.Atk
80 Sp.Def
100 SPD

Special Sweeper Reimu with nice physical Bulk? Would be awesome :-D