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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2015, 01:13:50 AM »
And she's got a momijitrucking torch in her hand.
You may or may not have invented a new insult here. :3
But yeah, fire/heart is a pretty cool typing, not to mention signal beam still induces confusion so it fits on that department

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2015, 03:06:52 PM »
I keep my position on dark/mature
While signal beam is the signature confusing heart attack, I differ madness from confusion.

Also, moves like taunt, torment, swagger (on thpp) are dark.


About lily being monoheart, I would compare it with the florges line. Pure fairy even if the mon itself is more flowers than any other thing. Also lily white is only related about anouncing spring. Not even related to flower, blooming, temperature or daylight increase. Is like El corte InglÚs, the only relation between them is that they announce it.

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2015, 10:01:25 PM »
Now that I think about it, dark/nature and heart/fire are literal opposites in terms of typing, aren't they?

As for Florges, I still find it dumb that it's not fairy/grass to be 100% honest. I can see it for the pre-evolutions but I still think forges should have been fairy/grass. Chalk it up to personal opinion there.

Right now my vote's on heart/fire, but only because that's a unique typing compared to kazami's dark/nature, not to mention her cards involve a lot of lasers. (...and moons, actually. Might earth possibly be another type consideration in that case?)

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2015, 09:28:43 PM »
Having looked a bit more at gameplay of Clownpiece, I would continue to recommend Fire/Heart or Fire/Dark, but considering how almost ALL of her spellcards are dubbed "Prison Sign" and involve trapping the player in a small, dangerous box via walls of fireball danmaku, I would like to recommend Clownpiece have Shadow Tag for her ability. To better reflect her tendency to imprison an opponent and then torch their face off.

Rather fitting for a denizen of Hell, even if she is a fairy.
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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2015, 07:43:51 AM »
Shadow Tag Troll/Special Sweeper... oh god this is just horrible. I want it now!
And remember: There are two slots for Abilities (three if we can shit on gen III mechanics and give puppets hidden abilities). So there's no reason to resign from Serene Grace if we want to give Clownpiece Shadow Tag. Actually, i can imagine her now with two or even more sets - one based on Burn/Confusion trollage with Serene Graced Flamethrowers and Signal Beams and second that would be Revenge killer with Shadow Tag and strong coverage.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2015, 07:48:10 AM by Drewko »

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2015, 06:06:09 PM »
Dunno, Clownpiece just does not scream "Dark" to me. It's too cheerful and not that malicious when you think about this, especially considering that she's pure LIFE force and life is not about dark and evil things.
Fire/Heart seems legit. Will o'Wisp is kind of a trollish move, much like confusion stuff. And she's got a momijitrucking torch in her hand. Quick-and-specially-offensive support/troll with few DARK-, NATURE- and REASON- coverage moves sound cool.
She's a hell fairy. Her typing would either be Dark/Fire, Fire/Nature(Reason), or Dark/Nature(Reason). Personally, I think the prior fits the best.
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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2015, 07:47:08 PM »
Rin, Utsuho, Satori and Koishi are from former hell.
Eiki resident mostly in hell.
Byakuren was sealed away in Makai that is somewhat similiar to hell.

None of these is DARK. So still, Clownpiece should not be DARK because... this type is for characters that are clearly evil and malicious in nature, like Remilia and Mima, or characters that have darkness or black colour in theme, like Rumia and Lilly Black.
Clownpiece is neither evil or black. She's just resident of hell that is also fun-loving fairy, with pretty bright personality and costume. Not every fairy is Nature-typed, and it does not work with her battle style, so nope.
Fire/Heart or Fire/Reason are only valid options. Dark is not because Clownpiece is not evil/black. And Nature is not because Clownpiece is not type of character that would shoot leaves/vines/sunlight/sounds of nature on her enemies.

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2015, 10:38:10 PM »
Well, then go with fire/reason.

Let's see how they type her in the TPDP dlc

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2015, 03:25:13 PM »
I'm still going with fire/heart here for the simple reason that signal beam scores confusion, mana burst does not. (also tri-attack for serene grace shenanigans)

Also if it get shadow tag it's pretty much getting insta-banned, no questions asked. XD

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2015, 07:48:54 AM »
Official Pokemon Typing:
Sumireko: Psychic
Seiran: Grass (because of wooden hammer)
Ringo: Normal/Water (want to be more creative than just Normal, so chose Water due to fighting her over a lake)
Doremy: Psychic
Sagume: Flying/Ice (her appearance screams Ice-type to me, and also because her stage theme has "Frozen Capital" in it)
Clownpiece: Fairy
Junko: Fire/Ghost (Fire because of the fire-like energy behind her and Ghost because she is a divine spirit that is a "grudge incarnate")
Hecatia: Rock/Dark (Rock because of her "planets" and Dark because she comes from hell)

1.8 Typing:
Sumireko: Reason
Seiran: Heart/Grass
Ringo: Heart/Water
Doremy: Reason
Sagume: Flying/Faith
Clownpiece: Heart
Junko: Fire/Ghost
Hecatia: Earth/Dark



Sagume and Hecatia should both be Faith types given the fact that they're both Goddesses.
Being a goddess doesn't necessary mean they should be Faith-type.  The Aki Sisters and Hina are goddesses but aren't Faith-type.  Plus, I don't think many people wants to worship the goddess of hell (Hecatia)...

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2015, 04:43:00 AM »
Fire/Heart Clownpiece is definitely what I would support.
Junko shouldn't have a type nor an ability. And her stats will be 90 all around. The same goes for her chibi, with 40 all around. She also learns Nasty Plot and nothing else, other than all TMs and HMs.

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2015, 05:48:16 PM »
There's no such type as "no type" and no ability like "no ability".
Even Gamefreak decided to give Ghost-typing for Curse, and second ???-type attack is... Struggle.

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2015, 08:33:22 PM »
By a technicality, it is possible for something to have no ability, you just have to not define one at all. The Pseudo-type ??? doesn't work properly iirc and it's not worth using. Also Curse only got a typing in Gen 4 onward, in Gen 3 it was still ???.

That being said, nah.
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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2015, 12:16:57 PM »
I just realized something...
Wind typing for Clownpiece would be at least interesting, mostly because in TPP this is the counterpart of electric-type, and it is used by Lt.Surge... who is a Lightning American.

And outside of this "logic" - paraflinch bullshit.

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Re: LoLK and ULiL Puppets!
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2015, 12:13:12 PM »
By a technicality, it is possible for something to have no ability, you just have to not define one at all. The Pseudo-type ??? doesn't work properly iirc and it's not worth using. Also Curse only got a typing in Gen 4 onward, in Gen 3 it was still ???.

That being said, nah.
I I recall properly, eggs were ??? type at least in gen III, but not 100% sure