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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2015, 11:42:17 AM »
Okay I actually DID find Balancing (Despite what I said earlier so sorry about that) but there's a problem...

I tried using it a few times and... I think Reimu's immune to it.

(Reimu is Power style btw)

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 12:55:23 PM »
Wait, discard what I wrote, that may be actually true. Normal types immune to Normal in this game.

Well, you'll have to try something more complicated then. Instead of inflicting Stop with DDaiyousei, you could try a set like this:

- Miasma
- Spirit Barrier
- Barrier Option
- Move of choice
- Glamorous ability

EV's in Defense and HP really help with a set like this. Miasma, Spirit Barrier, and Barrier option are TM's no. 77, 63, and 64 and function like Toxic, Substitute, and Protect. Though 80/80 defenses aren't really great, you could try catching a Yuuka and using her to tank instead of Dai-chan, they're like level 45-50-ish in the wild, which might be good enough with a little bit of extra grinding to run a defensive set incorporating Mana of Grace (マナの恵み) which works like Synthesis (but at 10PP).

Another way of stalling would be DMedicine, also catchable at high level. She can run:
- Fountain of Youth
- Power Drain / Miasma
- Barrier Option
- Spirit Barrier
And stall endlessly by alternating Barrier Option and Spirit barrier after setting up (she will be able to heal continuous barriers for 16+ turns). Note that she can't switch out though.  Another advantage of Medi-chan is her nice low cost of 80, allowing her to level quickly.

Yuuka's field also has the Prismrivers at high levels by the way, who have moves that are 4x effective against PReimu and will instagib her.


 





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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2015, 01:02:03 PM »
Already set EVs (Did so to beat Mokou)

Btw...

Renko: Speed
Chen: Assist
Daiyousei: Speed
Akyuu: Assist
Keine: Defense
Nazrin: Speed

I'll try the other strategies when I get a chance.  (I think I've caught almost every puppet in the areas I can currently access)

Also, japanese names of skills for Medi?
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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2015, 01:13:05 PM »
Medicine's skills would be:

Fountain of Youth (命の泉)
Miasma, Skill Card #67
Barrier option (バリアオプション ), Skill Card #64
Spirit Barrier (森羅結界), Skill card #63

This set is basically a Substaller with Ingrain.

Edit: Apparently Medicine doesn't learn Drain Seed, someone just edited the Wiki (I'm taking my info from there about this). I find it quite interesting how it's pretty hard to find a good stalling combo complete on one puppet halfway through the game. 

(Note: Even with Miasma she can effectively stall for 8 turns).

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2015, 05:43:19 PM »
Okay I'm missing Cards 63 and 64, but that's not all...

Apparantly Medicine CANNOT learn Miasma AT ALL!  I tried it with all three of her styles (Normal, Defense, Power), but the game's just saying 'NOPE'

Which does NOT make sense at all considering her ability in canon.
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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2015, 09:04:00 PM »
I found card 64 but idk where 63 is.  I've checked every store that I know of.  Please help me.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2015, 09:57:48 PM »
Medicine can't use the Miasma card because she learns it by level.

Skill Card 63 is at Muenzuka, which is west of the Forest of Magic.
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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2015, 10:45:23 PM »
Thanks.  I managed to find my way there after some searching.

I also caught Mary-Chan :D

Well, guess it's time to level up Medi until she gets Miasma or something.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2015, 12:08:11 AM »
Wait... Skill Card 67 is for a FIRE (Or is it warrior?  Man I wish I knew japanese.) move ._.

NO WONDER MEDI COULDN'T USE IT

But then... which one is Miasma?

Edit: I seriously don't know what triggers PReimu's ability but I SOMEHOW managed to get past her just now.

I used the same team that I listed earlier but everyone but Naz was a bit further trained (Ren-Chan is lvl 100 thanks to Rare Candies)
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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2015, 02:56:03 PM »
Wait... Skill Card 67 is for a FIRE (Or is it warrior?  Man I wish I knew japanese.) move ._.
If it looks anything like or contains 火 (upside down V with two dashes on the side), it has something to do with fire.
I believe the game uses 炎 for fire.
Warrior is 闘. Its a lot more square.

I noticed the type match up chart on the wiki's colors are kind of weird and has no japanese characters to match up with.
I guess they don't want you to know until they finish translating the game and compiling .arc files that work.
Too shy to get anything done, sorry.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2015, 03:10:31 PM »
67 and 77 do the same thing, the one is hvy poison, the other is hvy burn.

Of course, poison can't be used on poison and steel types, and burn can't be used on fire types and I think 'on fire' might also block it.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 05:52:34 PM »
The type chart is the same as Touhoumon 1.8.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 06:29:03 PM »
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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 06:33:57 PM »
Oh... Well.

Erm... I have no idea what to say about that.

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Re: I can't read Japanese! Where to go?
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2015, 03:26:11 PM »
I should be more careful when clarifying things:

I intend to say that the 'effect' poison can't be applied to the 'poison' type, and the same holds for the effect 'burn' on a fire type, regardless of the type of the move being used, barring inducing a type change to temporarily make a foe susceptible to the status condition, then using it. Of course, a fire-inducing warrior-type move would fail on a nether-type as well due to the typing of the move; the immunity prevents all effects including non-damaging ones. Or at least this would make sense as a mechanic in a basic way, it is the same way in Pokemon. My explanation is: if -not-, wouldn't the 'fire' effect from Thermit be strictly superior to use compared to Miasma, because it could be applied to anything and everything, while Miasma would not work on steel types only in that case (due to move typing)? I've never managed to poison a poison type in TPDP so far, can that be done (I could've just missed the move a couple times...)?

Also, how does poison trap work then? Can they be absorbed by a poison type or steel type like in Pokemon with the analogous Poison Spikes, or does it function diffrently?