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Offline AngelG No. 55

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Kedama and egg moves
« on: June 26, 2015, 03:24:19 AM »
Unlike the original owner of its unique egg group, Kedama has a moveset that's more than just Transform, but can it pass down moves if it is the "father"?

For example, will a female Yang CKeine breeding with a level 28+ Kedama that knows Double-Edge produce a second CKeine that knows that move?

I'm playing a draft version of Touhoumon Purple, scored by average team levels - giving an AKeine Double-Edge, Head Smash and Rock Head will do me wonders, especially if it's as early as it is possible in this game. Head Smash is an endgame move either way, but being able to use Kedama to breed Double-Edge into a Keine will save me plenty of work; without it I'd have to raise a Chen myself to level 52 or capture a Ran from the Sky Pillar at that same level, both options coming in considerably later in the game.

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Re: Kedama and egg moves
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2019, 03:14:33 AM »
Four years isn't too long to wait for an answer, right?

I looked into this and the short answer is: probably. See, there's a function in Emerald whose purpose is to determine the species of an egg from its parents. As part of that process, it checks for the case of breeding a Ditto with a male, and puts Ditto in the mother slot... but it specifically looks for Ditto, not anything in the Ditto egg group. If Kedama is in Ditto's slot or the references to Ditto's species number in this function have been changed to Kedama's, then it won't be considered for passing down egg moves later on. Given Touhoumon Purple dates to the time before decomps were available for ROM hacking, the simplest thing to do is to leave Kedama in Ditto's slot, so I'm expecting that Kedama works the same as Ditto and your plans of an Attack Keine with Head Smash are thwarted.