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Offline PhantomSong

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[WIP] Speed Flandre
« on: August 31, 2013, 04:33:17 AM »

Speed Flandre
Hustle - Increases attack, but lowers accuracy
Steel, Faith, Heart, Earth and Water.

Base Stats
HP - 50
ATK - 115
DEF - 70
SpATK - 120
SpDEF - 80
SPD - 125

Speed Flandre is an extreme powerhouse with great speed. Unlike her Attack counterpart, SFlandre is much more of a mixed attacker. She is pretty great for leads, being she can hit about anything, Physical Walls, Special Walls alike.

Mixed Lead
SFlandre (Speed Flandre) (F) @ Lum (All) Berry
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 128 Atk/252 Spd/128 SpAtk
Lonely nature (+Atk,-Def)
- Brick Break/Posion Jab
- Double-Edge
- Flamethrower
- Dark Pulse/Heart Break

Covering most of Flan's weaknesses this set can efficiently do some serious damage to an opponent lead puppet. If you want a water hitter, go for Posion Jab, if you want a Heart hitter, go for Brick Break. Your choice really. If you want a more 50/50, go with Dark Pulse over Heart Break.


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Re: [WIP] Speed Flandre
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2013, 07:17:04 AM »
why are you running those EVs when Hustle boosts SFlan's Attack to her fully invested Special Attack with no attack investment whatsoever

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Re: [WIP] Speed Flandre
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2013, 09:29:33 AM »

neutral nature 252 Spatk 0 Atk S Flandre Vs 100/100/100 def stat dummy mon in calc

Brick Break: 26.68 - 31.67% Superpower: 42.81 - 50.43% Energy Ball: 36.36 - 42.81%. Brick break does around 25-30% less damage than flans other options and the attack cut isn't a big deal cause mixed. E ball is nice cause it lets flan actually win against Louize.
Thrash: 53.66 - 63.34% Hyper Beam: 54.54 - 64.22% Dark Pulse: 36.36 - 43.1%- Hyper Beam barely edges out Thrash but its a close call, you can make up for the damage loss by running 12 attack EV's instead of 4 if you want to go mixed Stab.
Fire Blast: 54.54 - 64.22% Fire Punch: 39.88 - 47.5% Flamethrower: 40.76 - 48.38%

So for raw power your looking at Superpower/Hyper Beam/Fire Blast with S flan actually hitting slightly harder on the special side.

4th move slot will always be physical unless you just want to throw in a 100% accurate move P jab offers the best metagame coverage while self destruct gives the most boom. Double Edge is somewhat niche, hitting only Dark/Faith.

Special based mixed mixed 252 Spatk/252 Spd/4 Atk Naive/Hasty
-Hyper Beam
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Poison Jab/Self Destruct/Double edge

Best damage output overall however with your stabs both on the special side with only physical for coverage you lack the true "Mixed" feel

Mixed Stab 12 Atk/252 Spd/240 Spatk Naive/Hasty
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Energy Ball
-Self Destruct/Double Edge/Poison Jab

No need for P jab with mixed stab, not like anything can actually swap in on you.

Oh and band/mistress set is still good.

252 speed/252 atk/4 hp Jolly
-Poison Jab
-Double Edge

No fire punch because fire punch is sadness

Also S Flan is not weak to steel...
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 01:42:07 AM by joshcja »

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Re: [WIP] Speed Flandre
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 09:29:46 PM »
Steel, Faith, Heart, Earth and Water.

This is incorrect. Fire resists Steel, so SFlan isn't weak to it.
The other four are correct though.
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