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Good Morrow, lads. It's been some time.

More than 7 years ago, I made a chart for my own convenience of what Effort Values each Puppet gave the player upon defeat. Obviously it was for EV-training, min-maxing purposes. However, I figured that someone else could benefit from it, so I posted it here.

Here I am, once more, updating the post, mostly out of boredom, but also out of feeling sorry for that one odd person that decided to pick up a Touhoumon hack when almost everyone at this point has moved on to TPDP. Guess I'm just feeling nostalgic.

To whomever is maintaining the wiki at this point, I think it would be nice if you could include a page or a table featuring the Effort Value Yields for each puppet.

In the meantime, I realize that since the website I used to initially post the Effort Value Yields is no longer working, I'll paste it as a wall of text this time around, as well as share a public sortable spreadsheet. If anyone out there is interested in making a Touhoumon game, either in the form of a ROM hack or using Essentials (see: Faith & Prayer), this may be a resource well worth checking out.

Note to anyone using this in the future; these values pertain only to Purple and, for the DDC cast and extra forms introduced in a 6 year old hack that is "Unnamed" to this day, Doesnt's hack. I cannot guarantee that these values are the same in other Touhoumon games like Enhanced Reloaded or the Japanese "Zoku Gensoukyo Scenario".

Text Version:
Spoiler
1 HP
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Chibi Ellen
Chibi Hina
Chibi Ichirin
Chibi Kana
Chibi Kogasa
Chibi Kotohime
Chibi Lily White
Chibi Medicine
Chibi Orange
Chibi Rumia
Chibi Sara
Chibi Suika
Chibi Tokiko
Chibi Yamame
Chibi Yuuka


1 Attack
===========
Chibi Elly
Chibi Futo
Chibi Kagerou
Chibi Kasen
Chibi Kazami
Chibi Meiling
Chibi Momiji
Chibi Sakuya
Chibi Wriggle
Chibi Yatsuhashi
Chibi Youmu
Chibi Yumeko
Chibi Yuugi
Shanghai


1 Defense
===========
Chibi Kisume
Chibi Luize
Chibi Margatroid
Chibi Mugetsu
Chibi Rika
Chibi Tenshi
Hourai


1 Special Attack
===========
Chibi Alice
Chibi Cirno
Chibi Iku
Chibi Keine
Chibi Kirisame
Chibi Koakuma
Chibi Komachi
Chibi Letty
Chibi Merlin
Chibi Minoriko
Chibi Nitori
Chibi Parsee
Chibi Patchouli
Chibi Reisen
Chibi Rikako
Chibi Satori
Chibi Seiga
Chibi Shikieiki
Chibi Shizuha
Chibi Shou
Chibi Sunny
Chibi Utsuho
Chibi Wakasagihime
Chibi Yuki
Zombie Fairy


1 Special Defense
===========
Akyuu
Chibi Benben
Chibi Chiyuri
Chibi Gengetsu
Chibi Hatate
Chibi Kurumi
Chibi Kyouko
Chibi Layla
Chibi Lunasa
Chibi Mai
Chibi Mamizou
Chibi Maribel
Chibi Murasa
Chibi Raiko
Chibi Sanae
Chibi Sekibanki
Chibi Shinmyoumaru (CSukuna)
Chibi Star


1 Speed
===========
Chibi Aya
Chibi Chen
Chibi Daiyousei
Chibi Kokoro
Chibi Lily Black
Chibi Luna
Chibi Lyrica
Chibi Marisa
Chibi Mystia
Chibi Nazrin
Chibi Renko
Chibi Rin
Chibi Seija
Chibi Tewi
Chibi Tojiko
Kedama
Reisen II
Tori


2 HP
===========
Chibi Eirin
Chibi Kaguya
Chibi Koishi
Chibi Reimu
Defense Minoriko
Defense Tewi
Ellen
Helper Lily White
Helper Shizuha
Hina
Lily White
Medicine
Orange
Tokiko


2 Attack
===========
Attack Lily Black
Attack Lily White
Attack Star
Chibi Byakuren
Chibi Flandre
Chibi Mokou
Chibi Remilia
Chibi Shinki
Mimi-Chan
Momiji
Sakuya


2 Defense
===========
Defense Momiji
Genji
Helper Star
Kisume
Technical Kisume


2 Special Attack
===========
Attack Daiyousei
Attack Luna
Attack Medicine
Attack Minoriko
Chibi Kanako
Chibi Mima
Chibi Suwako
Chibi Yumemi
Chibi Yuyuko
Defense Sunny
Koakuma
Minoriko
Shizuha
Sunny
Wakasagihime


2 Special Defense
===========
Chibi Sariel
Chibi Yukari
Defense Daiyousei
Helper Koakuma
Kurumi
Kyouko
Ruukoto
Star


2 Speed
===========
Advent Chen
Advent Tewi
Attack Sunny
Chibi Nue
Chibi Ran
Daiyousei
Lily Black
Luna
Speed Lily Black
Speed Shizuha
Speed Yamame
Technical Luna
Tewi


3 HP
===========
Advent Ran
Chibi Yuugenmagan
Defense Byakuren
Defense Kaguya
Defense Keine
Defense Mokou
Defense Reimu
Defense Satori
Defense Yuyuko
Eirin
Helper Eirin
Ichirin
Kaguya
Kogasa
Koishi
Kotohime
Namazu
Reimu
Sara
Suika
Technical Kogasa
Yuugenmagan
Yuuka


3 Attack
===========
Advent Cirno
Advent Mokou
Aki Sisters
Attack Chen
Attack Eirin
Attack Flandre
Attack Keine
Attack Komachi
Attack Miko
Attack Nitori
Attack Nue
Attack Reimu
Attack Remilia
Attack Rumia
Attack Suika
Attack Suwako
Attack Tenshi
Attack Yuugi
Attack Yuuka
Elly
Flandre
Futo
Goliath
Meiling
Mokou
Remilia
Sendai (Ancestor)
Shingyoku-O
Shinki
Technical Byakuren
Wriggle
X Suwako
Youki
Youmu
Yumeko
Yuugi


3 Defense
===========
Defense Hina
Defense Ichirin
Defense Kanako
Defense Meiling
Defense Tenshi
Defense Youmu
Defense Yuugi
Helper Sakuya
Kikuri
Luize
Margatroid
Mugetsu
Rika
Rumia
Shingyoku-M
Shou
Tenshi
Tensoku


3 Special Attack
===========
Attack Alice
Attack Hina
Attack Kaguya
Attack Kanako
Attack Koishi
Attack Marisa
Attack Mokou
Attack Murasa
Attack Mystia
Attack Patchouli
Attack Ran
Attack Rin
Attack Sanae
Attack Shikieiki
Attack Utsuho
Attack Yuyuko
Byakuren
Chibi Elis
Cirno
Dark Alice
Defense Yukari
Elis
Iku
Keine
Kirisame
Komachi
Letty
Merlin
Mima
Nitori
Parsee
Raiko
Reisen
Rikako
Satori
Seiga
Shikieiki
Speed Sariel
Technical Nitori
Technical Sakuya
Technical Suika
Technical Toyohime
Technical Yukari
Technical Yuuka
Utsuho
X Utsuho
Yuki
Yumemi
Yuyuko


3 Special Defense
===========
Advent Alice
Attack Shou
Chiyuri
Defense Iku
Defense Letty
Defense Murasa
Defense Parsee
Defense Patchouli
Defense Reisen
Defense Suwako
Helper Mystia
Konngara
Mai
Mamizou
Murasa
Patchouli
Sanae
Sariel
Shingyoku-F
Technical Ichirin
Transcendant Maribel
Yukari


3 Speed
===========
Advent Marisa
Advent Reisen
Advent Yukari
Attack Tokiko
Aya
Chen
Defense Remilia
Gengetsu
Helper Letty
Helper Lyrica
Lyrica
Marisa
Nazrin
Nue
Ran
Speed Aya
Speed Cirno
Speed Flandre
Speed Kogasa
Speed Komachi
Speed Marisa
Speed Rin
Speed Utsuho
Speed Wriggle
Speed Yorihime
Speed Youmu
Technical Chen
Technical Shou
Tojiko
Transcendant Renko


1 HP & 1 Defense
===========
Chibi Kikuri
Chibi Yoshika
Rinnosuke


1 HP & 2 Attack
===========
Yatsuhashi


1 HP & 2 Special Defense
===========
Defense Wriggle
Helper Keine


2 HP & 1 Defense
===========
Yamame
Yoshika


1 Attack & 1 Special Attack
===========
Chibi Hakurei
Chibi Miko
Chibi Yorihime


1 Attack & 2 Defense
===========
Advent Letty


1 Attack & 2 Speed
===========
Mystia
Seija
Speed Meiling
Technical Alice
Technical Aya


2 Attack & 1 Defense
===========
Technical Nazrin


2 Attack & 1 Special Attack
===========
Attack Kazami


2 Attack & 1 Special Defense
===========
Advent Meiling
Kasen
Shinmyoumaru (Sukuna)


2 Attack & 1 Speed
===========
Attack Kokoro
Attack Shinmyoumaru
Chibi Meira
Meira


1 Defense & 1 Special Attack
===========
Chibi Toyohime
Defense Miko* (According to the Wiki)


1 Defense & 1 Special Defense
===========
Defense Layla


1 Defense & 1 Speed
===========
Advent Mystia


1 Defense & 2 Special Attack
===========
Magic Stones
Technical Iku


1 Defense & 2 Special Defense
===========
Helper Nazrin
Sekibanki
Technical Reisen


2 Defense & 1 Special Attack
===========
Technical Parsee
Toyohime


2 Defense & 1 Special Defense
===========
Speed Medicine


1 Special Attack & 1 Special Defense
===========
Kagerou* (According to the Wiki)


1 Special Attack & 1 Speed
===========
Technical Medicine


1 Special Attack & 2 Speed
===========
2hu
Speed Rumia
Technical Sanae


2 Special Attack & 1 Special Defense
===========
Kanako
Tenma


2 Special Attack & 1 Speed
===========
Attack Tewi
Chibi Konngara
Suwako
Technical Cirno
Technical Yamame


1 HP, 1 Attack, 1 Special Attack
===========
Kazami
Technical Hatate


1 HP, 1 Defense, 1 Special Defense
===========
Defense Hatate
Defense Shikieiki
Helper Lunasa
Helper Ran
Kana
Lunasa


1 HP, 1 Special Attack, 1 Special Defense
===========
Technical Satori


1 Attack, 1 Special Attack, 1 Speed
===========
Hakurei
Speed Koishi
Technical Nue
Yorihime


1 Attack, 1 Special Defense 1 Speed
===========
Kokoro
Rin


1 Defense, 1 Special Attack, 1 Speed
===========
Helper Merlin


1 Defense, 1 Special Attack, 1 Special Defense
===========
Alice
Benben


1 Special Attack, 1 Special Defense, 1 Speed
===========
Hatate
Layla


2 HP, 2 Defense, 2 Special Defense
===========
X Tenshi


2 Attack & 2 Special Attack
===========
Miko


No Effort Yield (0 EVs)
===========
Chibi Shingyoku

Link to the Spreadsheet:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DWqvoqdO8yaGsSYq5cRXtFoy18MPAhJf/view?ts=610f1e40
(Or you could download the attachment...)
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Teambuilding / Kokoro's First TPDP: SoD Team
« Last post by Kokoro on July 29, 2021, 06:22:08 PM »
This is the first team I used when I first played through the game. I'm laying it out here so I can analyze whether or not I was building good teams at the start.

Speed Chen
Type; Wind Mark; Black
Ability: Flexible
Moveset:
-Sharp Wind
-Lightning Speed
-Spinning Air
-Blaze Spear

Notes: Speed Chen is a fairly fast option, with a speed of 365 if maxed out with PP. However, in my playthrough, she kept getting knocked out by Electric type opponents, because they kept outspeeding her.

(Starter)
Power Kokoro
Type; Void/Light Mark; White
Ability: Infinite Changes
Moveset:
-Strike Shot
-Spring First
-Evil-Crushing Arrow
-Grace of Mana

Notes: Power Kokoro, is mostly built for defense, with priority moves to change type and minimize damage. Being my starter puppet, she has all S stats, making her very good.

Extra Yoshika
Type; Earth/Nether Mark; Red
Ability: Common Senseless
Moveset:
-Whole Being
-Break Shot
-Shooting Press
-Specter's Waltz

Notes: Yoshika is a fighter on the team, being the earth type converage and who I usually switch out to in case of electric types targeting Speed Chen. However, her light type weakness makes her not a good match up to switch into Speed Marisa, who is Light/Electric type. And Marisa is always using a Speed Marisa....

Power Kyouko
Type; Sound Mark; Black
Ability: Niche
Moveset:
-Danmaku Orchestra
-Ultra High Tone
-Storm Cloud's Eye
-Brave Song

Notes: Kyouko is the Sound type coverage for the team, but also is very good at doing damage. Brave Song boosts Sp. Attack by 2 stages, and Niche boosts those sound type skills even more, making Kyouko very effective at dishing out lots of damage. However, while she has Storm Cloud's Eye for Wind types, she has nothing against Electric types.

Defense Kaguya
Type; Light Mark; Blue
Ability: Flaming Garment
Moveset:
-Moonbow
-Supernatural Border
-Thermit
-Grace of Mana

Notes: Kaguya is the main tank of the team, taking hits while I sometimes used items to revive my puppets. (Only on hard ones!) Her strategy here is to Burn, Heal, and Protect. She'll starve out the enemy.

Defense Kisume
Type; Dark/Water Mark; White
Ability: Indomitable
Moveset:
-Supernatural Border
-First Aid
-Miasma
-Changeling

Notes: Kisume operates on the same strategy as Kaguya, but slightly less effective. However, with her ability to prevent her from being OHKO'D, she becomes a slightly more valuable assest.

Team Overview:
TBD
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ROM Hacks + General Discussion / Re: sprites
« Last post by Spyro on July 19, 2021, 01:44:30 AM »
I know this website has lots of extra forms and sprites for existing characters + ones not in 1.5 or 1.8. The link to the page itself seems to have been removed but the URL still works!

http://www.tohofes.com/news/dot_list.html
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Metagame Discussion / Defense Kaguya; The Awesome Tank!
« Last post by Kokoro on June 15, 2021, 10:02:33 PM »
A S.S.H Tank!
Defense Kaguya @Food Rations
Ability: Flaming Garment
EVs: 64 FDef / 64 SDef / 2 SAtk
Blue Mark
- Moonbow or Star Flare
- Supernatural Border
- Thermit
- Grace of Mana
*Preferably Reincarnated.

Details/use: This D-Kaguya follows a certain method I have for all of my tanks, which is S.S.H.
S stands for Stall. In most cases, Supernatural Border is used.
S stands for Status. We want to inflict the enemy with a Heavy Burn or Heavy Poison, so I'm using Thermit in this case.
H stands for Heal. Grace of Mana is used for this.
The strategy is to send out Kaguya, keep her there, inflict Heavy Burn, and alternate between Attacking with Moonbow and using Supernatural Border. When she's low on health, we use Grace of Mana to heal! D-Kaguya just sits there, attacking, stalling, and healing while your enemy should burn to death! Weakness: Enemies who have ways to combat status effects, or enemies who inflict Kaguya with the Weak status condition, which will prevent her from healing without items.
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Metagame Discussion / Power Kokoro
« Last post by Kokoro on June 15, 2021, 08:21:09 PM »
Power
P-Kokoro @ Anything will do for now
Ability: Infinite Changes
EVs: 59 HP / 53 FAtk / 10 SAtk / 8 Spe
White Mark
- Strike Shot
- Spring First
- Any power move (Ex. Arclight)
- Grace of Mana
*Preferably Reincarnated.

Details/use: P-Kokoro has the ability Infinite Changes, which changes the user's type to the type of the skill they are using right before they use it. P-Kokoro's really just used to dish out lots of power, stay defensively and a good way to maximize it's abililty. Strike Shot and Spring First are priority moves, and you use them to change type before your opponent hits with an effective move (Fighting resists Dark, which P-Kokoro in it's base form has a 4x weakness to. Wind is just to offset Fighting type weakness.) The power move is there just for attacking normally, and Grace of Mana is for healing. So the ideal strategy with this puppet is changing type with priority moves, attacking with power move, and using Grace of Mana for healing. I just find this a better way to use Kokoro in Power style, because Defense is really just defense, and Extra I'm not familiar with. Hope somebody finds this useful!
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ROM Hacks + General Discussion / sprites
« Last post by udongein on May 05, 2021, 05:44:16 PM »
hello! for the past week or so i've been working on a touhoumon hack for myself mostly to just get familiarized with basic hacking stuff and just to kill some time. i wanted to replace some sprites and remembered of a website i used to know about where users would post touhoumon sprites (besides the 1.5 and 1.8 sprites already on supersanctuary)

besides the sprite posting i remember it might have also been a japanese website. does anyone have any idea of the url by any chance or if it's still up?
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I really want to play Touhou Emerald AE ( http://srpgp.supersanctuary.net/thmonemerrom11.zip ) but the link is not working. Does anyone have a GBA ROM file of it?
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Shard of Dreams / Help needed!
« Last post by IsabellBULLETHELLLover on April 11, 2021, 02:13:33 PM »
I can't get to route 3! Must have been a glitch or something... Please reply!
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Teambuilding / My TPDP Team!
« Last post by Airin_Minama on March 10, 2021, 09:51:11 AM »
Note: I'm currently using the base game and not YnK, but I'll probs gonna switch to it later

            DReimu (Starter)
     Ability: Economist
     Item: Life Charm
|Revolving Illusions|Ephemeral             |
|Metal Needle        |Evil-Crushing Arrow|

             AChen
       Ability: Niche
       Item: Curing Charm
|Landslide|Swift Air-Raid    |
|Wind Wave|Waves of Earth|

            DNazrin
         Ability: Active
         Item: Anti-Wind Charm
|Hammer Throw|Killing Bite      |
|Venom Nova    |Shooting Press|

            SDaiYousei
         Ability: Telescopic
         Item: Binoculars
|Macroburst|Energy Absorb      |
|Parasite     |Bewithching Pollen|

            PSekibanki
         Ability: Spirit of Yin
         Item: Sugilite Hairpin
|Dark Innocence|Panic Call          |
|Ominous Doll   |Twilight Infection|
 
            AAkyuu
          Ability: Frail Health
          Item: Diamond Hairpin
|Revolving Illusions|Guided Missile|
|Foresee               |Over Ray        |

           Some Comment:
DReimu: A pretty good puppet, I choose it because of Her Type, which consists of Illusion AND Void, meaning that She is invincible for both Void Puppets and Illusion Puppets. Star of Hope for the team

AChen: Also a Star of hope, I like how fast She is and Her STAB Attacks, Especially with Swift Air-Raid and Waves of Earth.

DNazrin: Another Star of Hope, She is pretty much used as much as Chen, because both of them are Earth-Type, but She got Venom Nova and it's Super effective against Water-Types and Nature-Types, and it deals a good amount of damage too. She's also pretty fast.

SDaiyousei: She is Fast, and her life-stealing skills are really great, and don't forget about the Bewitching Pollen, combined with Her Telescopic Ability and Binoculars, The chance of it missing is now much lower than before.

PSekibanki: Not really used that much, But comes in handy when fighting Void-Type Puppets, Especially with Her Twilight Infection.

AAkyuu: Weakest Puppet in the team, but with Her Frail Health ability, it comes in handy when there's a puppet that can't break Illusion/Nature's barrier. I used this tactic against PRemi on SDM

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Creative Conundrum / Mi cuarantine project
« Last post by Katt Gengetsu on January 15, 2021, 08:23:15 PM »
Hello. I'm sorry for my English (I speak Spanish).

I'm making a touhoumon game in Rpg Maker xp.
You can see a fragment of the game here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZiEHulllcU
And play that fragment here (play a new game): https://www.mediafire.com/file/4ngelghreb6o168/AWBtM_installer.exe/file

The game is quite simple (it's just a quarantine project and I just want to hear opinions).

The game is in Spanish. I don't feel able to write it in English.

Also, I have never published a project before, I don't know if I'm doing something wrong and I'd like you to tell me if that's the case.

I have the dialogues of the game in a word doc, if you want to see'em and traduce it.

That's all. I hope you don't receive it reluctantly. If you think it's bad, please tell me and I'll do something to make it better.
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