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Touhou Puppet Play => Creative Conundrum => : Zebesiano123 May 29, 2014, 03:08:15 PM

: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Zebesiano123 May 29, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
Hi, long time no entering here, I figured I can't solve the problem of the new type so I'm decided to work on a 1.8x-like hack and after starting the hack process you may want to see a little thing, nothing important but I finally know how to replace types: [Screen] (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bFSQ5D1XSNs/U4dLMv37pkI/AAAAAAAAANw/MULUJE0ONEI/w496-h378-no/starting2progress.png)
Basically you may waited more of me but right, I need the puppet sprites so...

How do you get all the puppets sprites? (All characters from HRtP to DDC). This is the question I have now, so once I solve it I'll start the puppet replacement and share a demo, while I wait I'll do other things here and there by the way.
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: SG-Sanae May 29, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
Is there anything you have planned for this hack to stand out from that what Doesnt/Agastya do?
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Zebesiano123 May 29, 2014, 04:22:24 PM
Is there anything you have planned for this hack to stand out from that what Doesnt/Agastya do?
Hmm yes, I thought on do it somewhat different from their hacks but I just need to think more, also I planned to replace faith for the light type (I must decide, because of the plot...).
Also a few moves will be replaced by spell cards (like Touhoumon AW or WL).
Other thing I know right now is that Renko and Mary were used in most of hacks, so I bet two other girls should make a bigger difference...

But now Idk where I can get puppet sprites so I can start replacing, I'll wait for an answer...
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: SG-Sanae May 29, 2014, 05:10:11 PM
I'm a little skeptical about spell card moves - since the move number is limited outside of hex editing, any new signature move will cut into the movepool of other puppets, which can lead to bad favoritism.
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Neotornado May 29, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
I know there's a rom base that JPAN made that has an expanded movedex, but I dunno how easy it is to edit, though... maybe you could go with that? the gen III moves are still there so you could add signature moves (or spell cards in this case) without removing normal moves from puppets, for the most part, although as SG said, try to avoid favoritism or making the card-based moves too overpowered.

The base can be found here, if you want to try it out: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=194241 (for FR only)

As for the actual sprites... well here's a great place to find them:
1.5-based sprites: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/rotate/ (dunno if this one has the backsprites, though)
1.8-based sprites: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmon18spritedump/
Those ones have sprites for HRtP to UFO (to SA in the case of the 1.5-based sprites). the TD, HM, and DDC sprites are custom made, though. dunno where to get them. (and they don't have 1.5-based sprites.)
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Zebesiano123 May 29, 2014, 10:56:05 PM
Great, so a problem with the moves as I'm reading now, I'll give it a look and see what I can do. The spell card names will be abbreviated (ex.: Nightmare of Heiankyou -> NOHeiankyou), I'm also thinking on change other moves but with other type of names and may be some changes to them... [inspoiler]Dark Pulse -> Entangler: Add effect: 30% flinch and very low chances to freeze (~5%)[/inspoiler] [inspoiler](if you don't know Entangler is an hability of the Dark Beam from Metroid Prime 2, and basically my hack will have some of that game).[/inspoiler]
About the sprites many thanks for them, I can see TD characters and specially great because the icons are there as well as types images, your research is appreciated so thanks again :D.
I hope I can find HM and DDC sprites for puppets (and their icons...).
Can you make a list of the people that worked on the graphics?.
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Neotornado May 30, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
I can see TD characters and specially great because the icons are there as well as types images
actually, you'll be needing ExSariel's permission for the TD menu icons...

as for the 1.5/1.8 sprites that AREN'T TD/DDC/UFO (for 1.8), that would be hemoglobin1AC's sprites, which makes sense since he's the one who created the original touhoumon versions in the first place.

I dunno who made the TD/DDC character sprites besides the TD menu sprites, sadly. I know they are out there, though.
: Re: Where I can get puppet sprites?
: Zebesiano123 May 30, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
I can see TD characters and specially great because the icons are there as well as types images
actually, you'll be needing ExSariel's permission for the TD menu icons...

as for the 1.5/1.8 sprites that AREN'T TD/DDC/UFO (for 1.8), that would be hemoglobin1AC's sprites, which makes sense since he's the one who created the original touhoumon versions in the first place.

I dunno who made the TD/DDC character sprites besides the TD menu sprites, sadly. I know they are out there, though.
Oh okay, I'll ask him via PM for them and then add him to credits. And for TD, HM and DDC characters I'll put "Unknown" but if anyone else know the creator leting me know the name would be a good idea! (Oh yes, I had the idea to "burrow" the TD, HM and DDC sprites from the Doesnt's hack (unless I do deeper research).
By the way I downloaded ALL the sprites for 1.8x hacks but I'm having problems with them, hope I'm not bothering...
Right, I've a problem with them because they don't look as they should be (when trying with "Advanced Pokémon Sprite Editor"), so I went to Gen.3 Hack Suite and it requested 64x64 sprites.
I'm using Photoshop CC for some sprite edition but adapting all the sprites is a veeeery long process and it's hard (I bet there's a shorter method), also I can't replace the types sprites (I'm using NSE 2.0 for that) and I already edited all the types sprites:
(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/lo0lVEi7L5qtFmIDMvIFiEBxJp8h8bht9bPxvdo4MT8=s128-no)
Well, the image lost quality when uploaded but lefting that away you can see a few differences between standard 1.8x hacks (FLYING is now AERIAL and "? ? ?" is now UNIDNT (only graphically)).
Oh yes, I have some sprites sheet that can be used in Gen.3 Hack Suite (256x64) but it's a pack with characters from HRtP to GFW and fan characters (the ones used in Touhoumon WL).
I must do deeper research if possible to see if there are sprites, your help is still appreaciated and so thanks from now, by the way I added you for that :).
[inspoiler]PD: And thanks for fixing a TYPO error in my past comment, I read bad (lol).[/inspoiler]